In the game Dragon Ball Heroes Future Trunks, Future Gohan and Gogeta also get a Super Saiyan 3 form (They also never achieved this). If you disagree with that, think about this. Vegeta is a smart fighter, maybe the smartest between all the Z-Fighters. The person at the top of this section is wrong. The tail is a requisite for a saiyan for them to transcend to SSJ4. Of course he was strong enough to achieve it, the only thing prevented him from becoming stronger then Goku were, like mentioned before, the Otherworld trainings; I think about the Kaio Ken par example. I imagine Vegeta chooses not to transform because it uses too much energy and he has not yet been able to use SSJ3 effectively. While GT is no longer canon to the main franchise, Vegeta would similarly skip Super Saiyan 3 in the actually canon Dragon Ball Super. Browse more videos. Vegeta is my second favorite character, but I just don't think he ccan transform. TheDarkPrinceReturns! I do want to say that vegeta does tell goku something like no matter what he has done how hard he has trained goku is stronger than him blah blah blah. Super Saiyan 3s from Dragon Ball Heroes :D but a guy can only dream!! ssj3 isnt one of the ssj 4 requirements, If a fusion of two half-Saiyans can reach Super Saiyan 3, then I believe Vegeta, an Elite who is a pure blooded Saiyan, can also reach it. Super saiyan 3 transformation consume a lot of ki energy. Goku new exactly how strong Cell was when Cell was killed. As we know, Goku struggled greatly to sustain SSJ3 when he was alive, both when he fought Kid Buu and in GT. Another similarity to Goku's dead self is that Gotenks apparently did not require much effort to sustain SSJ3, but it did cut into the time he had left as a fusion, similar to how Goku's form cut into the time he had on Earth. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Using the Dance technique Goten and Trunks fuse at their base levels and become Gotenks, who then becomes a SS1 and then , skipping 2, a SS3. Fusion Dance is add powers and x1,000. The Super Saiyan transformation that Vegeta mentioned looked pretty different as it was a Great Ape with golden hair. But when he was dead, he was able to sustain SSJ3 much easier, the only side effect being that it cut into the time he had left on Earth for his one day visit (which obviously wasn't a problem in Other World). So the reason Vegeta never went ssj3 will forever be a mystery unless the creator ,Akira Toriyama decides to inform the community. Although Buu may have not been using his full power. 5 years ago | 25 views. Unlike any other SSJ transformation, is basically raw power, they dont need an emotional kick or blutz rays, just pure and simple, power/ki. Now looking at SSJ3 from otherworld, Vegeta probably took note of the IMMENSE power drain (so much that it borrowed against Goku's time on Earth) on a dead body (much less a living one). Playing next. While GT is no longer canon to the main franchise, Vegeta would similarly skip Super Saiyan 3 in the actually canon Dragon Ball Super. Berserk's Griffith Vs. Hellsing's Alucard - Who Would Win In a Fight? SSJ5 if it exists is x10,000. in the kid buu saga vegeta realised dat the reason goku surpasses him everytime is cuz he does not fight for power, but rather test himself to higher limits. So, to me, it’s obvious that you picked up on that. But if all of this is somehow untrue, then I can see why he wouldn't want to use ssj3. When Vegeta died during the Buu Saga I don't believe he kept his body, although I may be wrong on that. Each of the base SS forms has its weakness (energy cost), but this weaknes seems to be compensated for with time, as evidenced by the ease at which a Saiyan can transfrom into the next level and the ease at which they can hold it. Le stade de Super Saiyan 3est énergivore, et l'utilisateur ne peut rester sous cette forme que pendant une courte durée. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! In Dragon Ball Super, Vegeta made his thoughts on Super Saiyan 3 crystal clear.The Prince of All Saiyans might have been frustrated when he first saw Goku achieve the transformation during Dragon Ball Z's Majin Buu Saga, but he eventually dismissed SSJ3 as a waste of energy and opted to focus on perfecting Super Saiyan 2 instead. If the fans in Japan didn't like an idea, Toriyama would bend over backwards just to fix it to the fans desires. 10/10: Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is a semi reliable unit due to his ability to eat damage but also deal it out in the 2nd and 3rd stage. LSSJ is x250. Or think that will not add nothing? Secondly, he is comparing Goku during completely different times of his life, not to mention the fact that Vegito is Goku AND Vegeta fused together. This added to Vegeta's motivation as to anger Goku, Vegeta killed all those people at the world tournament just to convince Goku to fight. One can say the same with vegeta. It's true. Also the fact that Gohan could hold his own even though he got weaker implies that Dabura wasnt as strong as super perfect Cell. Vegeta will definitely go Super saiyan 3 in DBZ 2013 movie and Millions of DBZ favs will cum there pants, my prediction there gunna give his a cool new look like a red hue or glow along with the golden aurora an hair!! 09:56, August 25, 2012 (UTC). Frieza Saga Goku was when he just went SSJ1 for the first time, and Vegito happened during the Buu Saga, 12 years after Frieza Saga! Due to that limitation, I believe that Vegeta could reach Super Saiyan 3, albeit with a minimal chance of sucess of doing it... Vegeta - San Talk Contrib 18:42, April 6, 2010 (UTC), @SSJ4Lewich. [not when he was in his "Majin form"]. Android 20 explains that they know the healing powers of the Senzu Bean, and that they will not allow him the time he needs to heal. just? My theory is that the issue is with actually unlocking the SSJ3 transformation. SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are exactly even. 20:19, April 6, 2010 (UTC), yes i know goku returned in the saiyaman saga but wot i meant to say was he was on earth during the babidi saga. Personally i think DBGT completely sucked ! But maybe a few days of training, since is probably the most difficult transformation to control and mantain. Yeah vegeta probably couldnt have become ssj3 But, vegeta in early DBZ was very smart but when he became a SSJ he wasnt as smart. Asadora! The reasons that he did not on the anime can be; 1. I've also heard debate the Super Majin Vegeta is essentially his equivalent of Super Saiyan 3, since he goes into Second Stage and then gets a power boost. So, ki. While Vegeta is one of the strongest characters in Dragon Ball, there is one Super Saiyan form that has always eluded him. Super Saiyan, a saiyan's powers are magnified in this form, by exactly how much is never specified(an important bit of info to note). Plus Goku had 7years of training. Vegito is obviouly stronger due to the time between the two Sagas and because of the fact it's Goku and Vegeta fused. He was barely an identity, merely an amalgamation of two powerful children. releasing hatred,anger,revenge.which are traits that can helped all the saiyans accend. And btw, he did ask to Goten on one of the first DBGT episodes if he did take easy on the training with a reproval tone, or better, a Vegeta tone xD, so I dont think he will be that hypocrite. Upon achievement, it is easier to master the form, but every time a character unlocks a new one, it is much more painful than later uses (of course, this may just be for plot reasons). I think vegeta could go ssj3 because he and goku were equal when they were ssj2. His pure-hearted intentions are what drive him to push his limits and the limits of his Super Saiyan powers to new levels. Cause Vegeta should've went SS3. that brougt his strength up. Before returning to the afterlife, Goku taught Trunks and Goten to draw on the energy created by their Super Saiyan fusion to transform, making it an exceptional case. he was already strong as it is, but he only needed the majin, in order to awake the evil within him so he cud fight goku without any weaknesses like emotions holding him back. 11:50, April 8, 2010 (UTC), theres a cutscene in a game where he wants to be better than goku and that he wants to show his true power and he goes ssj3 and flies off but i dont know what game it wasbrndn rgt 04:42, May 20, 2010 (UTC). Come On Guys Lets Think Vegeta SS1 Pure Heart To Evil Goku SS1 Pure Heart To Good SS2 goku Pure Heart To Good SS2 Veget Was Under The Majin Spell Making Him Pure evil So Hejust Needs Tobe Pureley Evil For Him To Accend To SS3 NO MORE ARGUMENTS PLZ, Allso cant wait battle of the gods two SSG Vegeta Is Blue. 2:16. That being said while watching him fight goku says that Dabura is tougher then he thought due to the magic. if babidi gave vegeta the ability to use ss2 form, then goku wud not state dat.TheDarkPrinceReturns! Mystic is anything but about x100,000. Vegeta turns super saiyan for the first time. Also this is just a theory but Vegeta probally picked up on how Goku fights harder when hes angry or hes fighting a villain that only he can beat aka Freiza/Saiyan saga Vegeta/etc. he reached ssj3 because of combined powers, if a force was so great in DBZ, i think fusion with goku would have been a thought. Goku and Vegeta will forever be even both are cear cut super saiyan 1,and 2 but with vegeta he never had a chance to go ssj3 and the ssj4 goku got help just like vegeta he had the elder kai put out his tail just as vegeta had bulma help grow his tail so both had help reaching ssj4. The 6 Strongest Pokémon Ash Has Ever Trained. But we are forgetting a factor here. Like others have said, Goku went SSJ2 and 3 while he was dead, in reality, it should've have taken him much longer. Vegeta may be cocky, but fighting-wise he isn't stupid (at least to me). i think vegeta can go ss3 if he trained hard enough. SSJ2 is x500. It is something that you need to have or not have. DBZ---Gotenks-turns-Super-Saiyan-3-for-the-First-Time-HD. SupremeBooyah (talk) 18:35, October 16, 2012 (UTC). We all know that new SSJ forms are difficult to transform/control at first, but after some training it turns easier. Here are some real reliable facts. Vol. then, well it depends. 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Vegita could only get ssj4 with bulmas machine and ssj3 isnt to far away from ssj4 in Super Saiyan Power Levels, so i think if he tried hard with a machine like the one that made him ssj4 he could posibly be a ssj3. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. He noticed the limitations/drawbacks. Goku uses this form to fight Mahin Buu, later stating that he could have beaten MB but did not because he wanted the others to do it because he would not always be around to protect the Earth. Ki. Not to beat the issue to deah, but I'm pretty sure that you can be stronger than a Super Saiyan 3 in a Super Saiyan 2 form. Forget Goku, Vegeta's the best. When Gohan went Super Saiyan 2 in the tournament, Vegeta commented on how this form was weaker than when he fought Cell, and Gohan was only in Super Saiyan 1 at that point. He spends all of his time playing catch up that he never even thought to consider a possiblity of a form beyond Super Saiyan. However, still DBZ back in 1995 and even GT with no evidence at all, as to whether or not Vegeta ever unlock Super Saiyan 3.. Remember after the seven years of peace after Cell died? SSJ is x50. First off Vegeta was an ssj2 before he fought Goku and before Babidi "cursed" him. But did you ever wonder that if vegeta were still smart he would have beaten goku in a battle but not with strength but his intellect would have thought of a trick or something. First, we have to understand what SSJ3 transformation needs. "Full blooded saiyans, never change their hair since the day they are born" and morst definatley, where has the black star dragon balls come from ????? Something to kick in the transformation, on SSJ3 is basically nothing, since it doesnt need an emotional. 14:28, April 6, 2010 (UTC), Actually, TheDarkPrinceReturns! Vegeta is a slim yet well-built man of a below-average stature. I doubt he could've done it completely on his own. Of course, Gohan didn't constantly train like Goku and Vegeta, so his power level could have decreased, but I'm not sure if that's a thing. mean know that goku could change in to a ssj3 he was still ready to fight him mean sometime in those 14 years vegeta went ssj3 but never had the change to use it and he also say you're training ubb to be earth next portecter but you have a diffent movtive. It is some sort of supernatural quality that Goku and Gotenks shared in being either dead or fused (a connection underlined by the commonality that it cost both SSJ3s time to sustain the form). after the fight wen vegeta yells at gohan for not finishing dabura off, gohan himself states dat if vegeta fought dabura, then vegeta wud of beaten him. Goku did all those transformations by him self too. Vegeta is as strong as Goku in Base (or they wouldn't be able to fuse), so it's not that he's too weak to handle SSJ3. :), oh, and sorry for any grammar errors, I didnt speak english xD, i thnk vegeta became a ss3 bt was holdng t back . Legendary: Brolly is shown to be SS1 and SS2 but surpasses all previous known levels of SS power (SS2 up to that point) and is at a level called "Legendary", although that may be due to the amount of his power at his level. And without Goku around, Vegeta lost any reason left to train, and like Gohan became weaker and more mellowed. I believe the levels of Super Saiyans make a Saiyan stronger, but I also believe that the previous forms can be improved upon and become more developed. Here are some examples: So that shows that Vegeta only transformed once with the help of others, doesn't have a pure enough heart to transform, only got powerful enough to access the other forms with the boost from past transformations(that he didn't even attain himself) so he probably isn't powerful enough to do so, and he has too much pride to to ask for Goku's help in attaining it. Yeah, thats the only reason goku went ssj3 and thats the only reason he's alive. And even, who knows if he do need the machine sometime in the future? Great Ape/SSJ3 completely disturb this balance. When Vegeta went ssj1 he said he was pure evil, so he did need a pure heart to transform. ", "Both the Daizenshuu and the new Super Exciting Guide character profiles state that Vegeta was awakened to his Super Saiyan 2 form by means of extensive training in between the Cell and Buu arcs, which assures that Vegeta did indeed achieve this transformation through training." even the author explains it on one of his blogs. is right, Vegeta did achieve Super Saiyan 2 through harsh training, as it is stated in the Daizenshuu. (P.S. there was no circumstance before this time dat wud cause vegeta to use dis form as the show skipped 7 years on after cell games. A one-stop shop for all things video games. He didnt have to for Ssj1 and 2. ask Goku how to become a super saiyan 3, but what would Goku say? Another thing that has been observed throughout the series is that it is much harder to transform the first time the transformation is used. The rest of the series is vegeta trying to kill everyone by himself even though everyone says don't try it. Plus tard, Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 et Broly Super Saiyan 3 apparaissent à leur tout dans ce jeu. Report. he was confident of defeating majin buu when he cudnt in his ss2 form. His mind is tainted by the envy he has for Goku, and without a pure-heart, there's only so far he can push his limits. 1:20. Gotenks also uses SS3 to fight an evoilved form of Buu and manages to fight him to pretty much a standstill. did u by any chance miss the saga?TheDarkPrinceReturns! I have see some people saying that he doesnt transform into SSJ2 by normal means (using the argument that he only achieve SSJ2 by the help of Babidi), well, he kinda does: "It is sometimes debated when he first achieved this form. Vegeta should be perfectly capable of reaching through to Super Sayian 3, since Goku said reaching a higher power comes through need and not always through wanting it. Normally more powerful than SS2. To have attained SSJ3, Goku would've had to master SSJ3 and reach it's peak. Goku acheived it because he was dead and DID have his body. upheaval (SSJ, SSJ2 and maybe SSJ4 on Goku's case) or an external motivator (like the blutz machine for Vegeta's SSJ4). Dragonball GT Episode 59 Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta. Vegeta needs to have a pre-determined amount of ki to transform. actually vegeta never went ssj 3 in the dragonball series. You can at least be stronger than a Super Saiyan 2 in a Super Saiyan 1 stage. He then falls to the ground. Yes, but the SSJ3 Saiyan would have been at least 4x weaker than the SSJ2 Saiyan in his base form and it wouldn't be a fair comparision. Report. Android 19 then hits his earring and shoots Eye Lasers at Goku. Goku, during all his traning is light years ahead of Vegeta because he was not able to train when he died, and also that he didn't have the training conditions like Goku did. Dragon Ball GT saw Bulma develop a device that allowed Vegeta to transform into a Golden Great Ape, his Super Saiyan powers augmented by the primal rage of the Oozaru. Goku fight and trains so he can protect his family and friends. Après, il régressera à son stade initial, et sera parcouru par une puissante fatigue. When Babidi made him again pure evil, he was kind of a match for Goku. By the way I hate when people try to say how smart vegeta is because the only time he is smarter is when yet first meet. so to me there is no cear cut winner. Pierre Lea. A lot of people on here don't think Vegeta can reach SSJ3 all because Goku did it in the otherworld which makes it impossible in the real world. Goku was dead, with a body that could not feel hunger and had unlimited "life". Follow. SupremeBooyah (talk) 18:52, October 16, 2012 (UTC). vegeta apesar de no anime não usar a transformação, veceu todas as batalhas disputas entre ele e goku, majin vegeta ssj2 é a nivel de goku ssj3, vegeta ssj3 humilharia goku ssj3. Super Saiyan 3 (超 サイヤ人 三, Chō Saiya-jin San) is the strongest of all Super Saiyan forms in the manga and Dragon Ball Z anime. Puis en juin 2012 c’est au tour de Gogeta de devenir un Super Saiyan 3. Potara is add the two powers and then x14,000. During the fight against Kid Buu, Vegeta also saw that Goku's living body couldn't handle the strain (literally leaving him with little to no ki), so he chose not to go SSJ3 (even though it would've helped a bit) because of this. Report. The reason Vegeta didn't become a super saiyan 2 and 3 that smooth, was because he wasn't pure hearted. Plain and simple he didn't go super sayain 3 in dbz or gt so logically we have to assume he can't. and goku and vegeta were almost equal all threw out. In other words, it's a full-powered Saiyan in its maximum potential, that's why it was easier for Goku to achieve and maintain Super Saiyan 3 while in Other World. Training in the otherworld just allowed Goku to reach SSJ3 quicker because his body there didn't get as stressed from all the training. RELATED: Dragon Ball Super: Goku WILL Overpower Beerus - Here's How. When Baby took control over Vegeta their power levels got combined in a way so Baby Vegeta is as strong as SSJ, Super Baby SSJ2, Super Baby 2 SSJ3 so Vegeta has actually reached the power of Super Saiyan 3 just like when Ginyu took over Goku's body Baby didnt know how to properly use Vegeta's powers he just transform into i guess you could call it Super Tuffle. :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)98.211.36.158tyree can i be a super saiyan. 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